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My Yorkie sounds like a blow horn. Overall she is a good dog, she is litter box trained, leash trained and know commands. She just has a very high pitched bark. I have tried everything, from water spray and two different anti-bark collars. None of it has worked. I have even tried to tire her out by running with her three times a day. She just seems to enjoy barking. The only way to keep her from barking would be to put her on my lap or face to face with me. If I need to go to the bathroom, she has to follow, otherwise she barks. Even when I go to turn off the light she starts to bark. It would be ok if her bark matched her body but unfortunately it can be heard from a block away. Recently, a friend told me about the debarking surgery. Please let me know where this can be done or if there is another way to help her. I love her dearly but I can’t stand anymore and neither can my neighbors. The last thing I want to do is give her away. Please advise.
Methods I have tried & failed:
She has been trained since she was 10wks. I have tried the spay bottle, the spay collor, the shock collor,& the anti-bark machine that rings really loud. I have sat with her, pretending to ignore her, until she stops. She doesn’t stop.
I have talked to people who say it’s cruel to debark her & that retraining her would be the best. After allowing them to “retrain” her, they all come back in less than six hours, telling me they give up & thank god its not their dog. My neighbors are mostly elderly people, w/less than good hearing, so for them so say that she’s bothering them is saying something. I do have another dog, who barks but doesn’t over do. She get really upset when this yorkie barks and will leave the room & find somewhere quite. I really do love my this dog & I have tried many methods but none has worked. She is never w/out food, water, toys, treats, companion & she gets a workout 3xs a day. I have nothing against barking but her is too much!
I not thinking about debarking because it’s a quite fix. I have attempted many others methods. If you have any advice, I’m willing to try it. If there is another way I would gladly take it.
The barker, Princess Sofie, is a year and a half.
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My Yorkie sounds like a blow horn. Overall she is a good dog, she is litter box trained, leash trained and know commands. She just has a very high pitched bark. I have tried everything, from water spray and two different anti-bark collars. None of it has worked. I have even tried to tire her out by running with her three times a day. She just seems to enjoy barking. The only way to keep her from barking would be to put her on my lap or face to face with me. If I need to go to the bathroom, she has to follow, otherwise she barks. Even when I go to turn off the light she starts to bark. It would be ok if her bark matched her body but unfortunately it can be heard from a block away. Recently, a friend told me about the debarking surgery. Please let me know where this can be done or if there is another way to help her. I love her dearly but I can’t stand anymore and neither can my neighbors. The last thing I want to do is give her away. Please advise.
Methods I have tried & failed:
She has been trained since she was 10wks. I have tried the spay bottle, the spay collor, the shock collor,& the anti-bark machine that rings really loud. I have sat with her, pretending to ignore her, until she stops. She doesn’t stop.
I have talked to people who say it’s cruel to debark her & that retraining her would be the best. After allowing them to “retrain” her, they all come back in less than six hours, telling me they give up & thank god its not their dog. My neighbors are mostly elderly people, w/less than good hearing, so for them so say that she’s bothering them is saying something. I do have another dog, who barks but doesn’t over do. She get really upset when this yorkie barks and will leave the room & find somewhere quite. I really do love my this dog & I have tried many methods but none has worked. She is never w/out food, water, toys, treats, companion & she gets a workout 3xs a day. I have nothing against barking but her is too much!
I not thinking about debarking because it’s a quite fix. I have attempted many others methods. If you have any advice, I’m willing to try it. If there is another way I would gladly take it.
The barker, Princess Sofie, is a year and a half.
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PLEASE DO NOT do the surgery I think its cruel how would you feel if someone made it so you couldn’t talk.Just take the dog to training classes. Bark collars do not solve the problem they only make it worse and cause pain.
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While it is not my first choice, I believe that debarking is far preferable to getting rid of the dog or constantly yelling at it. It is NOT cruel, I’ve known dogs that are debarked and they are quite happy to bark away without anyone being bothered. But do some research on this before making your decision.
I think the best suggestion is to find a local Shetland Sheepdog (Sheltie) breeder and ask them if they know a GOOD vet that can do it. Not all vets will do this surgery, and not all of the ones that do it do a good job. You may have to travel a bit to get the job done.
You can find a sheltie breeder by contacting your local Kennel Club, or Google for a Sheltie club near you.
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have you tried a citronella collar? it works for a lot of people with this problem. i wouldnt do that surgery.
bark collars do not make the problem worse. most dogs, they bark once, feell it and then never have to have it on again. all you have to do is show it to them. put one on yourself and you will se it does not hurt
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ARE YOU CRAZY! WOULD YOU LIKE YOUR VOCAL CHORDS TO BE REMOVED…F*** THE NEIGHBOR’S… ICANT BELIEVE YOU EVEN CONSIDERED THIS!!!!!!!
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Giving her away will not stop the barking and may end up with her being euthanized for barking.
1. Talk to a behavioral training consultant… make sure there are no other ways to try to train this out of your dog.
2. Start looking for a vet that will do the surgery… they are becoming few and far between. You may want to talk to some responsible Sheltie or Samoyed breeders in your area. Realize some vets are better at it than others… some tone down the bark/soften it, some can nearly eliminate all sound. There are two basic procedures.. one goes in through the mouth and the other requires an incision into the throat.
Good luck.
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Do Not get this surgery done. there are many symptoms that can and probably will occur if this procedure is done. Also its not very humane its like taking your vocals cords out. Thats one way dogs express themselves and Im sure she wouldnt be happy if she could no longer bark. Try to contact a professional trainer. You may not be able to get her to stop but a trainer probably can. Look at Cesar Milan he works wonders!
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DE barking surgery is cruel its like us having an operation because we cant stop talking,training is what your dog needs not surgery barking is the only way a dog can communicate with us and other dogs.
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That is just inhumane and cruel. And any vet that would perform this surgery is cruel & not a good vet at all.
Barking is a dogs natural response to things, some bark alot some don’t bark at all. My dog barks at everything, you just deal with it…or you train your dog better.
It’s just like “declawing” a cat. They have natural instincts with their nails, and it is just inhumane to have them removed. I have 5 cats and never had that done, nor thought about it.
I also have 2 dogs, that like to bark at everything, they sit at the windows and bark and people walking by, cars, motorcycles, trucks, any noise they hear…they bark. You just deal with it…tell them to shut up & ignore them.
Get a trainer, or find a local puppy daycare and take her there for a few days a week.
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If they do the surgery simply by cutting the chords, it is not cruel, not painful, not mean at all. It is a five minute procedure that takes longer to put a dog to sleep than it does to do the procedure. It is much less cruel than bark collars or getting rid of the dog.
The dog still barks. They don’t even know they had the surgery. It just takes that sharp yappy sound out of it.
Really, it is not cruel.
There is another surgery which removes the larnyx. I would specifically ask for them just to snip the chords. Much easier surgery.
I see this done to dogs often at the vet’s clinic. It isn’t mean. Most people who think it is, have not even seen it done. Clipping the chords is certainly less invasive than spaying a dog or even neutering one.
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please do not debark your dog. i have seen quite a few dogs that have been debarked and they all have psychological issues. dogs use their bark to communicate. when you debark them they still will bark, only now they cannot communicate to you or anyone else. very sad.
try consulting with a behaviorist on this matter.
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How would you like to be hoarse for the rest of your life? There’s a reason it’s becoming harder and harder to find a vet that will perform the surgery. It’s cruel! It’s even illegal in California.
Don’t get a dog if you can’t stand barking.
Small dogs = Lots of barking
Bigger dogs don’t have to be as vocal. Their size is sufficient enough to help them feel safe. Small dogs constantly need to reassure others around them, they are not to be messed with.
The problem with this procedure is your taking away their voice. The pain of an unnecessary procedure, will pass. The dogs first defense system will be gone. This will leave your small dog in a constant state of uncertainty. Being without a natural or normal way to assert himself in the pack is cruel. What would be the point of being a dog??
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IM BEGGING YOU PLEASE DO NOT GET THE SURGERY…
i will give you a few reason why.
1. Say some one was in your yard or trying to enter your house. DOgs ussualy bark because of this. IF the dog has had his barker clipped for say how would it be abled to warn you?
2. THEir voice lets you know when it has been hurt.
3. THey bark when they need to potty or when their happy.
NOw to solve the barking problem.
when she barks dont show her affetion…. when you do that you are rewarding her so she thinks if she barks then she isnt doing anything bad.
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How old is she now? You will not see any training results if you switch between different methods too quickly – and for those other people who have tried to train her – what did they expect from 6 hours of work?
Debarking is illegal where I come from, as is any training devise that causes the dog pain.
It’s difficult to judge without having seen your dog, but I think you need to focus outside the barking problem as well. From what you have written it sounds as if there is an imbalance in your relationship e.g. with the dog DEMANDING to accompany you to the bathroom. She might be doing this because she is insecure, hyperactive or thinks she’s top dog and therefore you must do what she tells you to.
I know the barking is driving you up the wall, but I would start with reward based contact exercises, where the dog learns to focus on you. It sounds like she gets plenty of exercise, but is she getting enough mental stimulation? Search games, hide and seek etc.? Also, too much physical stimulation and wild playing can cause a dog to be continously stressed and hyper, so if you think this is the problem, it’s important to teach your dog to relax. Again use reward based methods.
If you think she’s being dominant, then it’s time to make new houserules, if the dog sleeps on the bed it’s time to get her down. Lure her down with a treat everytime she jumps up (remember to give her the treat when she is where you want her to be), be consequent, make sure she gets down everytime she jumps up. Terriers are stubborn little dogs and you might have to do it a gazillion times. Don’t lose your patience, but prove that you are more stubborn than the dog. Also toys are a priviledge, not a given. Keep them in a box. You decide when she gets to play with them and when not. Same thing with food, you eat first and when you feed her, make sure she earns it first by performing some kind of trick (paw, sit..whatever). It’s a good idea not to use a food bowl, but instead scatter the food around so that she has to use her senses to find it. This will help tire her out and a tired dog is a good dog.
As for the incessant barking. The most common method used here to control a dog’s barking is actually to teach it to bark on command. Once it does that, you can also teach it to hush on command. Again use reward based training. A dog should be allowed to bark to alert its owner, but you can set fix number of allowed barks – usually it’s 3-4 barks. Remember never to raise your voice if you have a “barker” on your hands, you’ll only be reinforcing the behaviour.
Another method to use is a time-out. As soon as she barks, giver her a verbal time-out clue and take her to a designated time-out area. Don’t give her any attention, not even negative, when you do this – and don’t leave her there for too long, no more than 5-10 minutes.
Last method is to distract her with a loud noise e.g. an old tin can filled with a few coins. As soon as she barks shake the can, if she quiet for even just a matter of seconds, praise her and give her a treat. The important thing when using this method is not to overuse the can, as she’ll otherwise get used to the noise and ignore it.
Good luck with her. Be consistent, stick to one training method and adhere to it 24 hours a day or it is not going to yield any significant results. Remember training something like this takes weeks, not hours.
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don’t do it.
if you pick her up when she barks, try ignoring her or giving her ‘time out’.